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R-E-S-P-E-C T-F! 

I was able to do a Respec Task Force with a great team today. We blew through it with ease, especially at the end. Nothing better then having 3 Tankers, 2 Blasters, and a Defender. Anyway, this is the current Build:

Invulnerbility

Resist Physical Damage
2 Slots

Temp Invulnerability
4 Slots

Resist Elements
1 Slot

Unyielding
5 Slots

Resist Energies
2 Slots

Tough Hide
2 Slots

Invincibility
4 Slots

Fire Melee

Scorch
5 Slots

Fire Sword
5 Slots

Combustion
3 Slots

Breath of Fire
Slots

Build Up
4 Slots

Fire Sword Circle
3 Slots

Greater Fire Sword
4 Slots

Leaping

Jump Kick
3 Slots

Super Jump
4 Slots

Acrobatics
3 Slots

Inherent

Brawl
2 Slots

Sprint
2 Slots

Rest
4 Slots

Fitness

Swift
2 Slots

Health
2 Slots

Stamina
3 Slots

Accolades

The Atlas Medallion

Freedom Phalanx Reserve

Crey CBX-9 Pistol

What I want to do is pull out the whole Leaping power set and replace it with Flight. 3 slot Air Supiority and Fly. This leaves me with 3 spair slots and a open power. Next I want to pull 1 slot from Brawl, Sprint and Stamina. Which gives me 7 free slots and the open power.

So with the 7 free slots I want to put 1 in Unyielding making it 6 slotted, then put 1 in Invincibility making it 5 slotted. After that I want to put 2 in Combustion and Fire Sword Circle to 5 slot them each. That leaves me with 1 free slot and the open power.

My question for you all is - What power should I get? I thought about getting the Medic power pool just to get those Medic Badges. If I remember correctly I'm either 3 or 4 bubs away from getting another 3 slots at level 42.

Also, any suggestions on my slotting?



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Re: R-E-S-P-E-C T-F! 

mmmmmmm epic power pool



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Re: R-E-S-P-E-C T-F! 

Did I forget to mention my Epic Power Pool? I made that list when I was level 40 so yeah I most likely forgot it... I already picked out Energy Mastery for Conserve Power. So that still leaves me with an open power.



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Re: R-E-S-P-E-C T-F! 

So no suggestions? Taking the Medic field just for the badges is a good idea I take it?



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Re: R-E-S-P-E-C T-F! 

i've never gotten a tank very high lvl in this game so i can't suggest to much, but a tank that can heal doesn't sound like a bad idea at all... that way you kinda have a back up in case your toggles do drop



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Re: R-E-S-P-E-C T-F! 

You don't have taunt? I thought you had said in an other thread that you had started doing some herding. If you want to get serious, you need taunt. In fact, you need taunt to matter what. Taunt will save more lives of your team mates then Medic can ever do.



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Re: R-E-S-P-E-C T-F! 

i would suggest pulling 3 slots from rest...you shuldnt have to rest that much being a tank and having stamina.



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Re: R-E-S-P-E-C T-F! 

I agree with the peeps of this thread. Definately get taunt and rip those slots off of rest and slap'em on taunt. They blasting world Will thank you. I hate it when a tank says "Hey I'm going to herd!" Then he runs right past the group waiting for him at the spot heselected and me being a blaster I'm just oozing agro and a bunch turn their heads and fire at me! So what do I do? I fight back! Then I get yelled at for screwing up the herd and I ask if he was using taunt because most tanks have taunt and this doesn't happen with most tanks. Of course he didn't have it and any time I tried to use inferno, when he ordered of course, the suriving leuits and bosses beat me to a pulp and continued wailing on the tank after I was dead!

Moral of the story.... Don't be a tanker without a taunt...



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Re: R-E-S-P-E-C T-F! 

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If you want to get serious, you need taunt. In fact, you need taunt to matter what. Taunt will save more lives of your team mates then Medic  can ever do.


Have to agree 100% here. Also, the medicine pool power heals are all a bit weak (compared to those of a defender anyway) and interruptible so they cannot be used in the heat of battle.



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Re: R-E-S-P-E-C T-F! 

I don't know about Taunt. I know I'll need it if I ever really get into herding, but I really don't team up that much. Heck yesterday I was with 3 tanks in the Respec TF and all three of us didn't have Taunt. We agreed that since its in our Invinciblity and it's auto, why even have the power? Besides I was complimented by several people who have teamed with me on occasion as how good I am as a Tanker without Taunt.

So it really comes down to the Herding... And I don't really know if I'm gonna get into that just yet. Plus I get badges with Medincine field. :P

I appreciate all your opinions on the subject and hopefully tomorrow I'll be able to actually get to Jack in Galaxy.



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Re: R-E-S-P-E-C T-F! 

Taunt is also useful for pulling smaller groups out of larger ones. I'm a big supporter of taunt. Forget medicine. Use taunt and slot it up a bit. It's not good just for herding. It's also the best thing you can use for aggro control, which is your job in a team. I know you solo mostly, but a tank that teams at ALL really should have the full blown taunt.

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Oh, and get the slots out of rest, brawl and sprint! They can be FAR better used in other powers. Brawl isn't strong enough to warrant any slots. You can't even put Taunt durations in it. Rather than slot sprint, put a slot in swift. It's more effective.



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Re: R-E-S-P-E-C T-F! 

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Heck yesterday I was with 3 tanks in the Respec TF and all three of us didn't have Taunt. We agreed that since its in our Invinciblity and it's auto, why even have the power? Besides I was complimented by several people who have teamed with me on occasion as how good I am as a Tanker without Taunt.


This statement alone tells me you don't team with fire blasters much. I have a level 39 fire blaster, and I have yet to find a tank who can hold his aggro with me on the team and without taunt. I can do more damage in 10 seconds than the rest of my team put together alot of the time, and let me tell you, I am an attention getter. Don't get me wrong, I have seen tanks without taunt do very very well, but I personally don't think a tank is complete without taunt.

Regardless, it's your character, and your choice. But you did ask. :)



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Re: R-E-S-P-E-C T-F! 

After some heavy consideration I am really swaying on getting the medic field, just kidding I will probably get Taunt since everyone is pretty adament about it. Plus when I5 comes out and they hopefully hand out free Respecs I'll switch over to the medic field to get the badges then.

Also I will be pulling those slots out of brawl, sprint and rest since the only time I really use rest is to regain Endurance faster.

Thank you for all your thoughts and advices.



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Re: R-E-S-P-E-C T-F! 

Red,
I don't know if you already made your power selection, but I know what would help you make the decision - copy your character to test. Once there, use the respec and test out the powers that you're interested in. Afterward, re-copy to test and experiment with the other set. You'll be able to make your choice from personal experience versus our opinions. However, I'd definitely recommend Taunt as well. :)

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Re: R-E-S-P-E-C T-F! 

see i told you to wait for others responce... i thought that taunt was a skill in one of your sets (havne't gotten a tank over lvl 5)... but yeah for the sake of all tht is squishy... taunt is good



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Re: R-E-S-P-E-C T-F! 

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So no suggestions? Taking the Medic field just for the badges is a good idea I take it?



Getting the badges that way will take forever and a day. I have a 23rd level character with an area heal that still doesn't have the bottom badge yet.





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Re: R-E-S-P-E-C T-F! 

I'm determined about badges. I'm almost halfway through the Zookeeper badge by running around that werehouse building rooftop just right of the entrance of Crey's Folly. That took me about 3 months just to do. I can't wait to hit 50 to run around Monkey Island. So time isn't a factor for me.

I haven't been able to make my choices yet so far, can't get on so... as soon as I can I will.



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Re: R-E-S-P-E-C T-F! 

Please please please transfer your character to the test server, do the respec, run a few missions and see how it goes. If time isn't a factor, this will help you a LOT!



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Re: R-E-S-P-E-C T-F! 

I think I found my new favorite Power- Taunt. Boy it IS fun running through a mission and being able to gather up every villain for yourself and beat 'em down. Though it does give me a beating with all the Lieus.



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Re: R-E-S-P-E-C T-F! 

HOOOOORAAAAAAAY! Another convert!



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Re: R-E-S-P-E-C T-F! 

You'll find also that when you're "herding" like that, you'll want to keep lots of these handy...





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Re: R-E-S-P-E-C T-F! 

That cross/respite image is really hard to see.



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Re: R-E-S-P-E-C T-F! 

Sorry. I was limited. :) I'll get a better one.

There, better?



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Re: R-E-S-P-E-C T-F! 

Muuuuuch better!



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Re: R-E-S-P-E-C T-F! 

Nah, You don't need respites if you perfect your herding abilities. Also Purples (Lucks) are just as handy as respites as they allow you to take more damage without hurting as much. Taunt was the way to go as a it makes solo missions sooooo much faster, but with this supposed nerf of herding coming in I5 us tankers will cry in agony. Because not all of us herd to Poewer level or things of that nature but to just make our life easier as that is what gaining these powers is supposed to do. So good choice with taunt nonetheless as I will always have it despite any nerf.



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Re: R-E-S-P-E-C T-F! 

Lucks eh? I find that hard believe since you don't a pretty picture of it!



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Re: R-E-S-P-E-C! 

Well now I5 is here and I took my guy on an test run finally today. I have found out I can't handle 2 bosses level 46, even though I'm level 45. That's bad! I could take on 2 Level 48 bosses at level 44 when I4 was out! Anyways, I haven't used my free respec yet and I come to for help in slotting.

Invulnerability

Resist Physical Damage: 2 slots
Temp Invulnerablity: 4 slots
Unyielding: 6 slots
Resist Elements: 2 slots
Resist Energies: 2 slots
Invinciblity: 6 slots
Tough Hide 2 slots

Fire Melee

Scorch: 5 slots
Fire Sword: 5 slots
Combustion: 5 slots
Build up: 4 slots
Fire Sword Circle: 5 slots
Taunt: 3 slots
Incinerate: 3 slots
Greater Fire Sword: 5 slots

Inherent

Brawl: 1 slot
Sprint: 1 slot
Rest: 2 slots

Flight

Air Supiority: 3 slots
Fly: 3 slots

Fitness

Swift: 2 slots
Health: 2 slots
Stamina: 2 slots

Energy Mastery

Conserver Power: 4 slots
Laser Eye Beams: 4 slots

Ok now what I'm planning to do is pull 2 slots from both Conserve Power and Laser Eye Beams. I might take 3 out of Laser Eye beams, or just get rid of it completely and pick up Unstoppable. Yeesh Unstoppable, I've heard so many horror stories with that. Also I'm gonna pull 1 slot from Scorch, F.S., Combustion, F.S.C., and G.F.S. Giving me 5 slots from them plus the 5 from the Energy Mastery. That's 10 slots for my Defense... what else should I pull?



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*cough, cough, hack, hork, wheeze, gasp, hork, cough, gasp, gasp, cough*



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